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Kevin Coble won't be playing for Northwestern next year. Horrible, horrible news for the Cats.
Just when I thought that I was done posting about basketball for a while... we find this. Consider this your freak-out thread for now: I'll have fully fledged thoughts tomorrow.

almost 2 years ago 30956_1404928997786_1069228069_1222854_7361661_n_tiny Rodger Sherman 27 comments 0 recs  | 

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FML

Seriously. Just FML.

I wonder if the foot isn’t healing well? If so, I’m so sorry to hear that.

But still, FML. We couldn’t just make ONE damn NCAA Tourney? Particularly with what was going to be (on paper) the most talent we’ve EVER HAD? In a year where they EXPANDED THE TOURNAMENT?

There is nothing worse than being a Northwestern basketball fan. Nothing. Seriously — find me a worst experience than rooting for the Wildcats in basketball? Just when they get close, and all our talent lines up, and our guys are playing well….WHAM.

by Chadnudj on Jul 27, 2010 6:18 PM CDT reply actions  

alright, screw it

this was going to be the key to my post tomorrow, but let’s talk it out now: can the cats make the ncaa tournament next year? i guess it’ll be a poll tomorrow or something.

i certainly think they have a chance – hell, they had a chance this year – but this isn’t good.

by Rodger Sherman on Jul 27, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, their NCAA chances have gone from pretty good to not good

by Loretta8 on Jul 27, 2010 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

You guys still have a chance. This hurts, but NU can get to the NCAAs.

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by Brian Favat on Jul 27, 2010 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

That really sucks

Northwestern was pretty close to making the tournament last season. With how the freshmen played last year and not losing too many people, they could have broken through the barrier with Coble playing.

"You just don't know understand how frustrating this is"- Kevin Borseth

by TkGoUWGB on Jul 27, 2010 6:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Who knows?

Maybe given the chemistry that Shurna, Thompson and Crawford developed last season, adding Coble back into the mix would have thrown off NU’s game next season.

I respect Coble’s decision and wish him nothing but the best. Hope the foot heals entirely.

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by Brian Favat on Jul 27, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

who exactly is this hack surgeon who can’t heal a broken foot in 9 months? Those quotes make it sound like he’d like to be able to play, but can’t.

by Loretta8 on Jul 27, 2010 6:29 PM CDT reply actions  

i recognize blaming the surgeon is irresponsible, but I’m pretty angry right now.

by Loretta8 on Jul 27, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey

gotta blame it on somebody. it seemed to me like coble was dying to get on the court all last year, so, i’d assume he’s not medically ready to play. but if that’s the case, why not stick around for this year to see if it improves?

by Rodger Sherman on Jul 27, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

i can sorta see not wanting to redshirt another year and come back in 2011-12 (assuming that’s even legal), but it’s just ridiculous that he can’t fully recover from a broken foot in a year

by Loretta8 on Jul 27, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's possible

happens very rarely. very, very rarely. not sure what evan eschmeyer’s deal was, but he was 24 by the time he graduated.

and upon looking at the wiki page, lisfranc fractures are bad. very, very bad. you generally get them from falling off a horse and getting your foot caught in a stirrup, windsurfing, or falling of a three story balcony feet-first. so maybe it’s not that surprising.

by Rodger Sherman on Jul 27, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

You never know. Kids get burned out all the time. He might have been frustrated with the recovery time, or focused more on life after basketball.

Sticking around for two more seasons is a tough decision to make as a player.

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by Brian Favat on Jul 27, 2010 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

i used to listen to them

that was one of the first songs i learned on guitar, because i couldn’t figure out how to play more than three notes at a time. that being said, you couldn’t have picked a lighter rage against the machine song? oh… oh wait.

by Rodger Sherman on Jul 27, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

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by Loretta8 on Jul 27, 2010 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

That really sucks, guys. I’m not even going to mock you, because I like the kid.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Jul 27, 2010 7:57 PM CDT reply actions  

you know its bad when Iowa fans don’t even have the heart to kick us while we’re down

by Loretta8 on Jul 27, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tough break for us, but I think it's different on the inside...

First, let me say that I’m disappointed that we won’t have Kev back for his senior year. I was salivating at the prospect of him and Shurna on the court at the same time. Sheesh, with Thompson-Crawford-Coble-Shurna, you had four All-Big Ten First/Second/HM candidates. When was the last time we could boast that?

That being said, I gotta think this was the best advice he’s getting from his doctor. If the recovery time doesn’t line up smoothly with the season, then why do this? In fact, he might be doing the team a favor in that they now know that they won’t have “How Will Kevin Mesh with the Team?” hanging over their heads. At this point the team knows the roster, and they can spend that precious European vacation getting their rotation sorted out. (Even though Jeff Ryan probably won’t be running full by that time, I’m less worried about him meshing as I had him pegged as an 8-10 minute guy to give Juice a blow at most this season. I’d rather have Juice averaging 30 mpg than 36 mpg.)

I’m also reminded of another story — actually a blog post from Craig Moore’s awesome, but short-lived blog on his pro career. Craig had answered a reader mail question about “What if someone offered you 100K to play two on two with Coble, Juice and Ryan?” Craig offered that the first reaction to the offer would be Jeff Ryan being sensible saying, “Let’s split the 100K four ways, and just have fun.” Then Juice would say, “Screw that, let’s play for the 100K straight up. I don’t care who is on my team, we’re gonna win.” Finally, Craig predicted that Kevin would shrug and say, “What’s the big deal? Why do we need money to motivate us to play?” To which Craig and the other three would roll their eyes.

What I got from that funny little hypothetical is that while Kevin probably loves the game, it’s not the only thing in his life. Especially after having to help out his mother in recovery, I’m guessing kid Coble definitely has a grasp on the long view. Why go through all of this difficult recovery, and put pressure on himself to heal- – and then when he does come back, not be guaranteed that the team would be better off with him (again, they’d have to adjust to this new player), or not be guaranteed that his fracture would not relapse.

Finally — from what I read in Wilhite’s blog at Daily Herald — Carmody has been well aware that this has been a possibility. Probably what’s making this less painful for him is the notion that Jershon Cobb may be as good as advertised, and that the kid may have a Drew Crawford like frosh-performance in him. If that’s true, then the lineup is:

JUICE – Ryan
COBB – Marcotullio, Fruendt, Ryan
CRAWFORD – Capocci
SHURNA – Peljusic
MIRKOVIC – Curletti, Peljusic

Again, pending those dudes stay healthy…that’s still our deepest lineup in a generation.

All said, i think the college basketball community at large will do the storyline, “What will the Cats do?” However, in their camp, they’ve got 2 months left to gel and sort it out. I think they’ll be fine.

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by macarthur31 on Jul 27, 2010 8:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Really too bad

It sounds like his foot wasn’t healed enough to give it a full go at the beginning of the year without the risk of further injury. He is really a stand-up guy and was fully supportive of last year’s team, sitting behind them every game, and he is doing the right thing by taking care of himself and finishing his NU degree.

Also remember he previously took most of one year off due to his mother’s illness, so the likelihood of additional eligibility was probably low.

As for next season, remember that this squad was in the tourney conversation in March last year despite being relatively young. Plus, they get Jeff Ryan back from his injury and get some touted freshmen. Making the tourney next year is less likely, sure, but it is definitely a very real possibility.

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by jhodges on Jul 27, 2010 8:50 PM CDT reply actions  

You know,

when I first heard about this I was really depressed, but after thinking about it a bit, I still really believe in this team and really believe we can make the tournament. We still have Shurna, Crawford, and Thompson on one team, Mirkovic will (hopefully) be one year better and one year more confident, and I think (/deeply hope) Cobb will do really well. If Marcotullio (who will hopefully be tougher this year) and Ryan play well enough as our most reliable backups, we still might be okay.

Key to this is Curletti/Peljusic (one or both) playing well, but that’s always been the case — even before Coble wasn’t coming back. Our center position was always going to be an issue for us, so let’s hope that those three guys and the coaches focus on that, the entire team focuses on defense, and everyone stays healthy.

I know that’s a whole lot of ifs and hopes, but I’ll take it. We’re still a good team. We still have three all-out badasses playing for us, and a bunch of other good players, too. All is not lost.

by pooley on Jul 28, 2010 12:11 AM CDT reply actions  

the key is curletti/peljusic

scary thought. i don’t think they’ll ever be “the key” – neither should be doing that much when on the court – but if each of them played solid basketball, nu would be greatly improved considering each guy will have to play a decent amount this year.

by Rodger Sherman on Jul 29, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

When I first heard this I was pissed and heartbroken. Now looking on it more I think we will be just fine. Dance is def possible perhaps probable if we do our "business".

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by DRose#1 on Jul 31, 2010 4:00 PM CDT reply actions  

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