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Northwestern-Vanderbilt, the Recap: I'll Take It!

Hey, everybody. I'm sorry this is the first post on a Northwestern sports blog about a game that happened two days ago - appreciate that I was 900 miles away from my computer, and that sleep is important. I'm writing three posts today and we'll be back to our regular posting schedule after that - recaps will probably be up Sunday mornings for most of the season. You impatient jerks.

Talking about impatience, how about those Northwestern Wildcats? Something we need to appreciate here: a win, friends, is a win. No, no prognosticator says Vanderbilt is anything but a sub-par team. Yes, Northwestern only beat them by two points, and needed an early missed extra point, a terrible call - let's be real, terrible - and a Jesus-esque performance from Dan Persa to pull out the W. BUT PEOPLE: was last year unsuccessful? No? It was a relatively good season? Did we need a last-second field goal to beat Eastern Michigan in week 2? Did Eastern Michigan then go 0-12 0-8 in the MAC? I rest my case. Sometimes, you win badly, but life is too short to get pissed off about bad wins. 

In an essence, the way I feel about the game is just about the same way I feel about the absurdly poor penalty on Northwestern that gave them a first down that allowed them to run out the clock for the victory: sometimes, you're not sure why things happen in your favor. I'm not quite sure how Northwestern won the game, and I'm not quite sure how a referee saw that hit and decided to get all penalty up on Vanderbilt. But I'm not complaining.

Hit the jump for actual analysis.

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  • Dan Persa accounted for 82 percent of Northwestern's offense. He had more carries than any other player and more passes than carries, and despite being by far the most featured player, I have literally only one criticism of his game, and it's an absurdly tiny one. He looked good on option plays when he kept them, but he did have a bad tendency to dump it off immediately when he didn't find a hole for himself, which put Arby Fields in a lot of bad positions when Persa should've cut the teams losses and taken a play for a loss of one or no gain rather than a loss of five on the pitch. The reason I highlight this up front is to highlight how disturbingly impressed I was with literally every facet of his game Saturday. I knew he could run. That's all I knew. I didn't know he could be a great decision-maker, complete 90 percent of his passes (Dan Persa not only probably has a higher GPA than I do, but also completes passes at a higher rate than I give correct answers on tests), throw on the run, and hit receivers on deep routes. 19-for-21, with 220 yards and three touchdowns isn't just good, it's unfair. Neither of his incompletions was a bad throw - the only bad one I remember was a deep pass to Demetrius Fields that looked like a pick but ended up beating the receiver for a 20+-yard catch. Overwhelming props to the junior - in a few hours, I went from being apprehensive of a Persa-led team to being excited for the rest of the season.
  • Which leads to the next question, and one everybody's already asked: if you have no running game... why are you forcing it? Outside of Persa - who both scrambled and played keepers well - there was no such thing as a successful runner for Norhwestern. Jacob Schmidt wasn't awful, but he certainly wasn't a show-stopper. Stephen Simmons didn't touch the ball enough to make any distinction. And Arby Fields had ten carries for -7 yards. Some of this is due to those pitches earlier, but some of this is due to him suddenly not being able to evade a defender by any method other than running backwards, and into another defender. Now, let's say you see your team sputter whenever Dan Persa isn't involved with the play. I know you need the run to set up the pass, but when your projected starter is going backwards, it's not so much setting up the pass as letting the defense know, "hey, we probably shouldn't worry about that No. 19 guy - he's pretty bad at running the ball in the correct direction. This run blitz seems awful unnecessary." At a certain point, you need to have a drive where, for better or worse, Persa is the only option. Let the defense know they have to cater to Persa - then Arby Fields might have a chance. It's especially distressing to write this after having thought Fields could be an absolute contributor to this offense. Persa needed about 15 more pass plays called for him. I'd take Persa being 27-35 with four touchdowns, 350 yards and a pick over 19-21 and depressingly conservative game calling keeping the ball out of his hands.
  • I wouldn't get concerned about Northwestern's defense. Bad all-around play, yes, but I'll chalk it up to a lack of experience. Each unit had a distinct bright spot: despite a TD that can be directly attributed to Jordan Mabin's poor coverage, the secondary had a great outing from Brian Peters, who seemed to always be in the right place at the right time. Ben Johnson was shockingly great at linebacker - if he can use his speed to play as well as he did both rushing the QB in the backfield, finding the rusher near the line of scrimmage, and in pass coverage. He might've dropped a pick, but, we can forgive that. Although it did lead to points, so I didn't want to forgive him then. (Also Nate Williams was everywhere, but that's less of a surprise.) And I said our weak spot would be defensive tackle, but Jack DiNardo looked legit up front at stopping the run, which genuinely surprised me.
  • Larry Smith isn't much of a quarterback. We made him look good, though. We stopped his running game, for the most part, at least, but, nothing to be proud of.
  • Let's talk terrible call, here: that was a terrible call. I turned to the Vandy fans behind me and said something to the extent of "well, that was an awful, awful call, but I'LL TAKE IT." That being said, Vanderbilt isn't driving the length of the field with no timeouts with 1:20 left, which they would've had to had that play been ruled 4th-and-short, which is questionable, because Persa looked pretty close to the first down marker from my angle. And let's watch this hit:



  • Horrendous officiating. Me and my friends walked around yelling at people complaining "yeah, terrible call by those biased SEC REFEREES THAT ARE BIASED", but, then, uh later, we found out, uh, they were, uh Big Ten refs. Sorry. That sucks. I'm not a medical expert, but you can't get a concussion in your upper back. As one of our Vanderbilt bros pointed out, Vandy fans are generally very, very, tame. He told us they have a tendency not to blame. They show up to football games in seersucker suits, for chrissake. When the game ends and they're throwing bottles at the referees, something went wrong in their proper southern minds. (Sidenote: after discussing how tame Commodores fans usually are, the bros blamed it on the "Nash-trash" who had apparently contributed to the game's good turnout.
  • Anchor of Gold has had some good posts since the game ended, but this is my favorite.
  • While we're talking about non-football stuff, great turnout. The stadium was pretty much full.
  • And the uniforms looked great too! I'm more excited about the home ones, though.
  • If you play on special teams, and you're not Brandon Williams, let's have a little talk. (this goes to Vanderbilt people, too. This is a learning experience for everybody.) Brandon, you're free to go. Nice job. You can punt the ball with your feet. The rest of you, do what he does. Missing a block on a regular play: bad, but, hey, we'll take it. Missing a block on any sort of kick related play: STOP IT AND DON'T DO IT AGAIN. Thank you. I'm not sure what happened on the next field goal screw up - was it a bad snap? I don't feel like rewatching the whole game to find it - but, 40-foot-tall Jesus, we need to figure this stuff out.
  • Talking about special teams, we spent all of halftime watching Vanderbilt's kicker attempt 45-yarders, and playing the "which direction is this kicker likely to miss this field goal in dramatic fashion" game. Needless to say, when he attempted a 45-yarder for the lead in the fourth quarter, my friends and I were amused instead of scared. We laughed.
  • I'm not a football expert: but something I learned from last year's Outback Bowl is that if you want a play to work, it's nice to make the opposing team think you're doing something different. I knew both of Vanderbilt's two-point conversions would fail because they didn't put any of their running backs -Warren Norman and Zac Stacy who had played well and scared me - in the backfield on either one. Instead, they ran a designed shotgun keeper for Smith - stopped at the line - and botched a snap, which isn't due to the running back thing, but still. I say this because I like the way NU plays on third downs and goal lines now. There's a legit threat of the run with Schmidt, and our superbacks keep the pass threat spread. Vanderbilt is still in a transitional spread-like state where they know that putting Larry Smith under center is a major mistake. Meanwhile, Persa took some snaps under center, and even drew an offsides call from a defender expecting the rush on a snap count. A tiny adjustment, but not what we're used to at NU, and it's one of the little things that made sure Northwestern won the game: as NUFTW pointed out in the comments, both teams scored three touchdowns, a field goal, and missed an extra point. Because Vandy's missed PAT was earlier, they had to try to go for two - their bad playcalling led to the screwup on the first two-point conversion, which led to them being in a deficit.
  • Where was Venric Mark? Let's not unnecessarily burn this redshirt, guys.
  • And last but not least, I might not be LTP, but I am a genius for predicting NU would score 23 points. I got called out in the comments section by Sasser for assuming NU would kick three field goals. I warn him to think outside the box: if I predict a team will score 14 points, I think it's just as likely that they record six safeties and a defensive two-point conversion as it is that they score two touchdowns. Just so happened I foresaw three touchdowns, a field goal, and a missed PAT for Northwestern. (Not for Vandy.) And I called Justan Vaughn as the under-the-radar player, and sure enough, he had a pick. Of course, he had nothing to do with the pick being a pick, it was a terrible overthrow, and a defensive back getting a pick isn't really a sign of my genius, but I am Nostradamus. Or at the very least Nastradamus.

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  • More later.

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shoulda been more clear

saw that. meaning we burned his redshirt. but we’re not going to make him our primary returner on punts or kickoffs? seems like kind of a waste to me.

by Rodger Sherman on Sep 6, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh right

My bad, I thought you were talking to the other NU fans who wanted to see more Venric Mark in the game, but I guess you are also one of those said NU fans.

by thinkbluecrew on Sep 6, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mark...

Was also in at WR a few times, although he didn’t have a reception nor was he thrown to. But I’d expect to see him some more this week against Illinois St. so he can get some catches and return chances.

Also, I’d expect to see Simmons back on kick returns most often as he does has great straight ahead speed and hasn’t done too badly returning them through his career.

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by jhodges on Sep 7, 2010 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

If You're Nostradamus

Does that make me Paul the Octopus?

Congrats for getting the final ‘Cats score right, Rodger, but I’d also like to point out that I at least got the three touchdowns part of my prediction correct, even if I incorrectly assumed you had them pegged for two TDs.

by Sasser on Sep 6, 2010 1:40 PM CDT reply actions  

two tds?

i thought nu would kick five field goals, score a touchdown and go for two. i guess i was wrong on all counts…

by Rodger Sherman on Sep 6, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

good call on Persa on the option

The number 1 goal of the option is to prevent the same guy from forcing a pitch and tackling the guy who got the pitch. Vanderbilt’s end accomplished that several times.

Also, take a look at the screenshot in the last comment:
http://www.offtackleempire.com/2010/9/4/1670597/the-qb-is-dead-long-live-the-qb

Reality has a little-known Northwestern bias

NU prez knows how to get PUMPED

by nuftw on Sep 6, 2010 1:56 PM CDT reply actions  

do people realize that still pictures can be misleading, especially when taken from a lens zooming in from over 50 yards away? in that same picture, #84 for Vandy’s helmet looks like it’s touching #72 for NU’s helmet, I suppose #84 was taking a cheap shot behind the play? No, it just looks like it because the camera is 50 yards away.

The whole video shows Fuller leading with his shoulder into Persa’s back, the helmets may have been very close together and even briefly made contact, but it wasn’t a direct helmet to helmet hit, and if you’re going to start throwing flags every time a offensive players helmet touches a defensive players helmet, then there’s going to be a personal foul on every single play.

by Loretta8 on Sep 6, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather have Arby taking those hits at this point than Persa

However, if we want the option to work, Persa needs to wait until the end commits to him to pitch. I’d assume they’ll see it on the film and fix it. Either that or it’s on purpose to keep hits off Persa. We should see in the ISU game.

Any guesses how many runs we see in that game? I’d put the over/under at 50.

Speaking of running, where was Concannon? It seems like we’re using Schmidt as the power/blocking back and Arby as the outside speed guy. Concannon seemed like the most balanced back last year in being able to go inside or outside the tackles and pick up decent yardage. Did he not make the trip?

by Batman42 on Sep 6, 2010 2:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Correct call

I just don’t think most people are aware of the new rule this year and heavy emphasis that was placed on it with officials during the offseason:

Defenseless Player: Contact to Head or Neck Area
ARTICLE 4
No player shall target and initiate contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, elbow or shoulder. When in question, it is a foul. (See Points of Emphasis for a description of “Defenseless Player.”)

You’re going to see it all the time this year, so you might as well just get used to it. But I don’t think Vanderbilt fans were aware of it during the game.

Even the Vanderbilt player was unaware of the rule, apparently:

“He’s trying to get that first down and he’s diving for it so I hit where I could, but apparently I did it wrong. I thought I was leading with my shoulder, but it was going so fast and I didn’t feel anything hit me in the head too hard. The ref didn’t say anything about head to head contact just that I hit him in the head.”

It doesn’t matter how you make contact with another player’s head or neck, just whether or not that contact occurs.

by NUHighlights on Sep 6, 2010 3:34 PM CDT reply actions  

except the replay clearly shows shoulder on shoulder contact

by Loretta8 on Sep 6, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Officials

All it takes is one official to throw the flag and unless the other officials saw something completely different they’ll almost always err on the side of caution and assess the penalty. AND, as NUHighlights noted, the rule specifically calls for erring on the side of the penalty AND it was a point of emphasis in the offseason. That means that officials had this rule drilled into them about as much as Fitz yells intensely at his players during Camp Kenosha.

PLUS, if you watch the replay, you’ll see that the defender leaves his feet to initiate the hit on Persa. That gave the officials even more reason to throw the flag since it definitely appeared as though the defender was purposely going for the high hit and was getting a bit out of control to do so.

Anyways, there we were flags during the game that went both ways so I wouldn’t be too worried if I were Vandy. And there was nothing as egregious as the 2007 Duke game where the ACC officials did all kinds of crazy stuff including assessing a 5 yard penalty on intentional grounding which is just a spot foul (one of the few times where I’ve seen an FBS official get a call just plain wrong, needless to say I yelled at the ref until my embarrassed girlfriend told me to sit down, and that’s about the only time that’s ever happened since I’m usually a pretty even-keeled guy which is helpful given how NU games usually go).

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by jhodges on Sep 7, 2010 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll take it.

It wasn’t pretty, but it’s a win. I was pretty annoyed after the game, but I’m learning how to be an NU football fan.

If you’re only going to have one solid player, then make it your QB. Persa completely saved us and should make this a pretty good year. Now everyone else has to step up.

by WestsideBrandon on Sep 6, 2010 4:24 PM CDT reply actions  

this is the exact same thing that happened last year

and look where we ended up. it’s all good.

just so long as they don’t lead us quite so far down the “we’re actually terrible, lower your expectations” road.

also welcome. being an NU fan is fun. Basketball’s even better…

by pfoley on Sep 6, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha...

Hey, that basketball team is getting better. I actually watched a lot of them last year. And by a lot, I mean however many games were on National TV since I live in LA.

But not for long. I’m scheduled to fly out on Saturday, but I’m trying to move my flight up so I can go to the Illinois St. game. Since I went to a high school without a football team, I really want to go to as many football games as possible. Go ’Cats!

by WestsideBrandon on Sep 6, 2010 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

also went to a no-football high school

you probably don’t want to see illinois state. empty stadiums will sap your enthusiasm.

by Rodger Sherman on Sep 6, 2010 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess I'm the idealistic incoming freshman...

but I want to try to combat this attendance issue. It’s ridiculous that a team that has won 17 games in the past two years can’t fill up Ryan Field. But I have no experience with NU athletics, except the ridiculous amount of LTP and Sippin’ on Purple I’ve read in the past few months. So there’s that.

by WestsideBrandon on Sep 7, 2010 1:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

i tend not to worry about the attendance...

i leave that to ltp. for me, i’m just a college student who likes going to football games.

by Rodger Sherman on Sep 7, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

My high school played at Hancock a few weeks ago, and it was filled between the two schools.

That’s saying something, empty seats that could be filled by Redbirds fans. (Both of them.)

"He's the straw that makes the drink go."

by Thelonious Dunk on Sep 7, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great Write Up

Enjoyed reading it. Congrats on the win. Good luck this season!

by KingJamesIV on Sep 6, 2010 7:40 PM CDT reply actions  

thanks

your team played a great game, your fans gave the game great atmosphere, and your students showed me a great time. we’ll be pulling for you dudes through the ess-ee-see season.

by Rodger Sherman on Sep 6, 2010 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

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