Northwestern Wildcats vs. Wisconsin Badgers Game Preview
I appreciate Wisconsin's contributions in the fields of beer, cheese, and friendly residents whose major ambitions including helping me consume beer and cheese. However, I've never been a particularly big fan of the Wisconsin Badgers, mainly because of the vicious football and basketball beatdowns Northwestern has suffered at their hands over the past few years in sports - NU is 1-5 in basketball since I got here with some true #beatemdown moments, and the last football matchup between NU and their closest northern conference opponent ended with them scoring three times as many points as the Wildcats.
So with NU's hopes reinvigorated after a monster victory over No. 7 Michigan State, I wouldn't mind beating the Badgers.
Are they good?Depends who you ask, bold-faced questions guy. Kenpom's rankings have Wisconsin as the No. 3 team in the country, thanks to some truly dominant early play against cupcakes: the team's first five games featured a combined score of 365-179, with no opponent putting up over 43. However, the team isn't ranked, after five losses. True, four are to ranked teams: North Carolina, Marquette, Michigan, and Michigan State. But Michigan genuinely blew them out, and there was also a not-close loss to Iowa, plus, the team only has one win over a ranked team. Wisco maintains the Kenpom ranking due to a defensive prowess early on that still gives them the No. 2 overall defense, No. 1 efg%, No. 3 2p%, and No. 4 3p%, but they obviously are not as good as his numbers say they are. Pomeroy got so tired with people asking him about why Wisconsin was so highly ranked during their recent three-game losing streak that he posted an FAQ about Wisconsin's ranking. It's an evisceration of people faulting his system, but acknowledges his mistake with regards to Wisky.
If you are going to trash the entire system based on the biggest outlier over the last six years, I suspect you had no desire to use the system in the first place. Either that, or your team is ranked lower than you think it should be... If you would simply remove Wisconsin from the planet, the ratings on my page would look fine to me...The difference between your flawed knowledge and my flawed system is that I am tracking the results of my system so you can identify all of the flaws for yourself. Ten years from now, you'll be able to look at my site and see that Wisconsin was like 21-13 at the end of the 2012 season and ranked #5...basically, I don't think the Wisconsin situation invalidates the predictive methods used on this site, except in cases involving Wisconsin.
I love Pomeroy's work, so am willing to forgive and forget on this front. Furthermore, while I don't think Wisconsin is the No. 3 team in the country, I believe enough in Pomeroy's track record that I believe while his system has failed in this case, it is likely accurate in not writing the Badgers off despite a few bad games. I think they're a top 25 team playing in a rough conference and that their defense is very, very good.
What are they good at?
If you'll allow me to get mammalian, Wisconsin has been more three-toed sloth than badger this year. Wisconsin has always been a fan of lethargically-paced ball, placing in the bottom 50 of tempo each of the past four years, but this year is their best homage to boredom yet, barreling along at 58.8 possessions per game, last in the nation. (The nationwide average is 67.0 possessions, Wisconsin has only played one game - a 34-point blowout of Mississippi Valley State - at that pace, and that includes their one overtime game.) Wisconsin's style vibes towards molasses on both sides of the ball: on offense, they run the swing. It's very schematically different from the Princeton, but like the PO, is based on a few sets and reads the team is very, very, very familiar and does not have any problem with waiting for defenders to stick with their man for 32 seconds hoping somebody slips up and leads to an easy basket. (That said, they're occasionally willing to pop a shot early in the clock if they're open.) On defense, the Badges play a patience-driven man defense looking to emphasize contesting shots rather than forcing turnovers. The team is good at both, and both lead to a lot of 25-plus second possessions on both sides of the ball.
Things slower than Wisconsin basketball games
Well, to be honest, this was just going to be a Youtube video of two Galapagos Turtles mating, but I decided against it in case any of you might be offended by turtle sex. Or in case any of you are eight years old, because I still feel guilty for this one time I was a camp counselor and we went on a group trip to the zoo and the zoo had a turtle area and we walked past it and the turtles were boning really hardcore, so I was like "kids, maybe now isn't the best time to look at the turtles, lets come back in a few minutes", so I brought them to the other parts of the zoo for like an hour, then we came back to the turtles and they were still boning really hardcore, and I was like "look, kids, today just isn't the day for you guys to see the turtles" and they started yelling at me and eventually I gave in and let them watch turtles have sex, except they were eight so they just assumed they were fighting. Still guilty. I guess any eight year olds reading this site are pretty scarred for life anyway.
So, Swing Offense, huh?
Yeah, but if you have to pick a game to study it, don't make it tomorrow's. The swing offense is a man offense, and NU has opted to go with the 1-3-1 against Wisconsin in the past. And when they do, like many teams, Wisconsin abandons its basic set. Bo Ryan has been more than happy to tear through it with a very well-designed zone offense that he clearly has in his back pocket ready to bust out whenever NU uses it. Having seen the fire and the fury at Ryan's command in past matchups, I would be pleased if Bill Carmody left the Kraken sheathed tonight. Wisconsin has a machine duplicating shooters, and this year is no different: Josh Gasser, Ben Brust, and Jared Berggren are ready to gun from beyond the arc. Let us
Names?
Let us mourn the loss of Wquinton Smith. It seems the B1G has lost its best names in this past year. But let us celebrate the awkwardly named backup Duje Dukan. I don't even think it's that great.
Can NU win?
I certainly think Northwestern is talented enough this year to beat Wisconsin. But Wisconsin on a neutral court or on the road is a different beast from Wisconsin in the Kohl Center. Sure, Iowa won there. But I have memories of playing on the road at Wisconsin, and they all end with me somehow contracting dysentery. (NOTE: I was going to actually figure out what dysentery was - something with your colon and diarrhea and dying while on the Oregon Trail, right? - but I wrote this at 12:08 am, eight minutes after the Wikipedia blacked out. I feel like mentioning that while I ignore taking political stances on this site, SOPA is currently counterintuitive to my desire to write freely on the internet, and the smarter folks over at SB Nation agree.) Wisky may be struggling, but a loss in the Kohl Center is nothing to be ashamed of, and a win would genuinely surprise me.
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NU - 48; Wisc - 52
I don’t expect NU to win tonight; however, I am just hoping for a split between this and Minnesota. But, wow, what a change in tune from fans (myself included) after these last three games, not only tourney talk, but how this team can finish 10-8! I love it.
Reason I don’t see NU winning tonight:
a) Kohl Center is tough to win at, even if this year has not been as good as the past, it is still a tough place to play.
b) After a three game losing streak, they have won two straight. Granted, the home win agasint Nebraska was not too impressive.
Gosh, the more I think about it, I do see NU having a solid chance to win. This team has no impressive wins and is kinda down this year. Urgh, let’s go Cats and just beat this team down.
by NU Alumni - Class of 2002 on Jan 18, 2012 9:24 AM CST reply actions
Very tough to win at Kohl, and our bench is entirely depleted….i think Badgers win, but it’s VERY close.
by Chadnudj on Jan 18, 2012 10:52 AM CST via Android app reply actions
Jershon?
If Cobb’s playing, I like our chances, both because it improves our depth and gives us another quick slasher that should be effective against the Wisky D. If he’s not, and especially with Marco out, also, I just don’t think we have the guns. But I hope I’m wrong.
Proceed, Wildcats!
From Teddy Greenstein yesterday
via Twitter:
Marcotullio (concussion) out for wisky game. JerShon (hip) not likely. Fruendt will play. Turner might chuck redshirt
Tina Akouris said Cobb is available but may have limited time.
hope they don't burn turner's redshirt
just for one game…
by Rodger Sherman on Jan 18, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
Though the bench is starting to look pretty thin, so maybe it would be a good thing longer term…
My X-Factor for tonight: Drew Crawford.
Wisky plays a lot of perimeter man defense, and this team has (in the past) only been beaten by teams with one or more players who can create his own shot. Enter Crawford. If he can come out in the first ten minutes with guns blazing and hitting the 12- to 14-foot jumpers, Wisconsin will be forced to bring the post man out even more. That should leave Curletti, Shurna and Hearn with some wiggle room to get the inside shots.
The Badgers don’t typically turn the ball over much anyway, so it would behoove BC to chain up the Kraken for tonight.
Crawford's a good choice...
…but Hearn or Sobolewski, too, could play HUGE roles, if they can get to the hole/drive and kick out to shooters. Ditto Curletti/Shurna, if they can play well down low and score some points banging down in the trenches….
We really need a huge team effort, and to continue to much improved defense we’ve seen the past few games.
No doubt on the last part.
With Wisconsin, it is hard to imagine a single player getting more than 20 points, so I do agree more a team effort than in other games. But, the defense will be the #1 factor in the outcome of the game, with lesser possessions due to Wisc’s pacing, FG% of Wisc’s will be crucial.
Also, I know we are all sky high on Curletti (and rightfully so), but of all players tonight, I think his play will be the most impactful, b/c it could either be great or horrible.
by NU Alumni - Class of 2002 on Jan 18, 2012 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
You missed one
I appreciate Wisconsin’s contributions in the fields of beer, cheese, and friendly residents whose major ambitions including helping me consume beer and cheese.
Never forget brats. The residents of that fine state have done much to spread the joy of fine German sausages as well.
are brats a hot dougs thing?
i think more of yak and foie gras.
by Rodger Sherman on Jan 18, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
I have this bad feeling.
We’re due to start a night shooting slow, and Wisconsin, having made all of like, 2 threes against Nebraska in that 50-45 abortion of a game on Saturday, will naturally come out hot against us. Maybe they have another freshman who can get a triple-double… There’ll be something.
Eat a brat and you'll feel better.
by SeattleCat on Jan 18, 2012 5:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Man, I hope NU pulls it out tonight.
Would be a huge road win, for perception as much as anything else. And it would kick the chatter surrounding this team into overdrive.
I’m just looking at the remaining conf schedule as L8 outlined in the previous post:
13 games remain
9 of which are against ~ RPI top 50, 11 of which are near RPI top 100 (Iowa games). And one at a place where we haven’t won since before Talor Battle arrived in college. I’d say Nebraska at home is our “surest” shot at a win.
I don’t want to go in with a losing record conference record BUT: if we win 6 of the final 13 games, that would be among the best stretches, if not THE best stretch this team has ever produced (OK, maybe there’s a stretch in the 30’s or 50’s that was better). And that’s with just 7 bodies that we can put on the floor on a given night right now. An 8-10 record would still be a major accomplishment at this point, at 9-9/10-8, we could have a 4 – 7 seed.
If we make the tourney, than whatever we did to make it, would put this team up there as the best in (modern) school history.

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