I miss everyone and the debate, so I wanted to get some thoughts here.

This just came out on ESPN.com, http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7801992/indiana-hoosiers-lead-revised-top-25-plenty-changes-elsewhere

To highlight, here are the Big Ten teams in the pre preseason Top 25. 1. Indiana 5. Michigan 8. OSU 10. Michigan State 22. Wisconsin 24. Minnesota

Then, in my opinion, the next tier is Purdue and Iowa. The bottom tier is PSU, Illinois, Nebraska, and wait for it, NU.

So, my pre preseason prediction for NU is 7-11 (T-9th). Yay, the continuation of medocrity continues. What a joke.

Now, I'm sure some people agree/some disagree, but does anyone see NU being much better than last season's 8-10, and by much better, I mean at least 10-8.

Carmody fans, convince me I'm wrong.